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I saw some posts last night that made me curious about and interested in the current UTAU fandom generation. I'll admit that for all intensive purposes I've been out of the fandom for nearly 2 years. I've come up with a couple questions for those UTAU users who would consider themselves highly active users, especially those who joined the fandom recently (2 years ago, a year ago, etc).

1. What do you consider to be the essential elements of an UTAUloid/UTAU voicebank? Are there some features that an UTAUloid must have to be legitimate? What kind of configuration does a voicebank need in order to be 100% complete?

2. What websites do you use? As far as promotion of your material goes, what are your most frequented websites (i.e. YouTube, SoundCloud, Tumblr, Facebook, UtaForum, or anything else I might not know about)? How do you utilize these sites?

3. Is there a hierarchy to the fandom? Are there levels of popularity among users based on talents, skills, or something else? Is it a social issue/are there cliques of people on these levels? Does the hierarchy seem penetrable or does it depend on factors that a user might not be able to control?

4.Who are the most "popular" users? Today in 2014, who do you consider the most popular active users? Who/what would you consider the most popular/"best" UTAUloid?

5.What's the biggest issue/problem facing UTAU users/the UTAU fandom? For example: theft/tracing, using things without giving credit, drama, cover artists outnumbering original artists, overpopulation of UTAUloids, outdated technology, community negativity, etc.?

I ask these questions because I'd like to know how much the fandom has changed over the past few years. I already know that the fandom has gotten much bigger, and that the mean age is probably younger than I am. I just hope to find that the fandom has overall gotten stronger since I was in it ^__^
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YOONA-YOONA Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
1. What do you consider to be the essential elements of an UTAUloid/UTAU voicebank? The essential elements I think should be in a voicebank include all or most of the sounds needed in songs to cover. They would also need proper oto-ing and approximate pronunciation. It doesn't always have to be EXACT by enough that it sound okay.

2. What websites do you use? Just deviantART and Youtube. It's mainly just to put out my Utau covers.

3. Is there a hierarchy to the fandom? I don't think it's exactly a hierarchy, but I wouldn't say everyone is really leveled. I don't think they're cliques, but I wouldn't really know. I don't actually communicate to much with others within the fandom. Sweating a little... 

 
4.Who are the most "popular" users?  I'm just gonna name some of the top of my head. Nami-chan, KaiSuki, nekodoru, Terrainakka, a bunch of these guys. But just because they're popular doesn't mean they're the best. There's so many Utau out there that are left unnoticed. But I'm sure they have lots of potential and talent themselves, and just can't get recognized. I've heard that people mostly pay attention to an utau because of their art, not so much to listen to the voice itself.

5.What's the biggest issue/problem facing UTAU users/the UTAU fandom? Hmmm....That's a hard one. I suppose the biggest problem is probably somewhat to do with overpopulation and popularity among utau users. I'm sure someone said this already, but I agree. The fact that there's so many lowers the chances of one's audience expanding. Some people may have seen great utau a long time ago and stuck to them. Now that there's new ones, they can't notice them because they've attached to the popular ones. If that makes sense...


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vkunicorn Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
1. At least the basic CV recordings, a concept art/box art, and a character.txt.
2. deviantART (obviously), UTAUwiki, YouTube, Nico. Uploading art and updates helps spread the word.
3. It really depends on how popular you get, and I've seen that that is literally impossible unless you make, convert, or legally distribute USTs.
4. Uhhh idk
5. The fact that there are so many, it's much harder to get popular.
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MiyuSama639 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2014  Student General Artist
 1. What do you consider to be the essential elements of an UTAUloid/UTAU voicebank? 
Well, I think that first of all, you MUST have permission from the voicer to share a voicebank. As well as an original design, even though the design itself isn't the most important thing, it's usually the first thing people notice. It's not like the drawing has to be perfect, I have seen some great designed UTAUs with not so outstanding artworks. 

2. What websites do you use?    
I use deviantArt, tumblr and Facebook the most (blame my friends). I'm not on YouTube or the UTAForum as much as I would like to because of some problems with my parents and the time and blah blah.

3. Is there a hierarchy to the fandom?    
I don't see it as a hierarchy, but more as a community with moderators? Dunno, I'm not so into the fandom and I only talk with those who are my friends because of shyness issues (even though I would love to make a lot of friends here, but I got pushed back because I always do stuff wrong and people end up angry at me ahahaha orz).

4.Who are the most "popular" users? 
We can say that those with the best UTAUs xD I mean, those users who have been from almost the begining (2008-1009) and work hard on their voicebanks, update stuff, work hard on their PVs and have musical skills (making usts, original songs, stuff like that). 

5.What's the biggest issue/problem facing UTAU users/the UTAU fandom?
I guess it's the drama, just like everywhere else. There are people with little/no patience, and those who say what they think without caring about what they will think of them, and when they crash... Well, you know, stuff like that.


((I'm sorry if there are any fails because English is not my mother tongue))
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ZulaChu Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I have no idea I come from the Stella, Hayari, and Reni generation so I'm looking through these myself hah. I kinda left the UTAU world awhile ago (Says the one with her UTAU as her icon)
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Terindie Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I think that 4 years of UTAU doesn't count as "new", but I'll throw in my two cents.

1. What do you consider to be the essential elements of an UTAUloid/UTAU voicebank?

At its core, a voicebank needs to have good recording quality. OTOs are easy to configure, and concept art / designs is subject to change, but you need a nice microphone to pick up quality sound.
On a lesser note, I find it very kind when VCV banks are released with a CV version for those who are still using CV mainly.

2. What websites do you use?
I use YouTube, tumblr, and Soundcloud. YouTube is where covers with videos go, tumblr is where voicebank / UST download / miraiLOID stuff goes, and SoundCloud is just kind of storage for demo songs.
I really wish people would use tumblr more. The format is nigh perfect for UTAU with its audio posts and reblog features.

3. Is there a hierarchy to the fandom? Absolutely. The "hierarchy" often depends on the social ability of the UTAU user and their ability to make covers fast. I'd love to say that voicebank quality plays a bigger factor, but people like SteelEmissiary, who posts slowly, isn't as much of a presence as UTAUxyz because they post so much. (They're very talented too, though!)
The barriers between classes are resilient but breakable. For example, Azuralunar left the fandom long ago, but she still has suscribers and comments on her UTAU videos. You can slowly move up in ranks, but you need something special to do so, whether it be full PVs or unique voices.

4.Who are the most "popular" users? Today in 2014, who do you consider the most popular active users? Who/what would you consider the most popular/"best" UTAUloid?

kyaami is the tuning queen, and it's well deserved. I also see a lot of SteelEmissiary (first original, holla), ChasingFireflies and KaiSuki lately.
The best UTAU is ... mine! For real though, it's probably Ritsu Namine. That Kire just sealed the deal.

5.What's the biggest issue/problem facing UTAU users/the UTAU fandom? For example: theft/tracing, using things without giving credit, drama, cover artists outnumbering original artists, overpopulation of UTAUloids, outdated technology, community negativity, etc.?

We're a competitive fandom by nature. We all want our videos to get the most views. We're like athletes who respect each other and maybe even like each other, but it's not possible for every UTAU to succeed.
We need more collaboration projects! We need to be friendly and social and welcoming.
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MikiJackson Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Ques. 1: For me, clear quality and properly otoed CVs, VCVs, and CV-VCs are what I recommend. Multipitch banks are great.
Ques. 2: I mainly use DeviantART, Facebook, and SoundCloud.I could go to Tumblr. I rarely go to Youtube. I am only active in Youtube when it goes to video watching and video uploading.
Ques. 3: Maybe... I don't know about this ques. tho.
Ques. 4: alliaxy<--- she does great UTAU covers! Pretty great at VCV, TaYLoRinUnofficial<--- i loved her TaY, Steel <--- His ELECTROLYSIS IS JUST HHHHNNNNNNNNGGGG~, Revo, Echo, Cheese, Victor, oh!, and Kiei's owner, too!
Ques. 5: I don't know... but people are starting to quit UTAU and they are ranting things. It breaks me to see people and their hate messages. Also about the rant on Shit UTAU Users Say...
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Catlione Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2014
I have joined the fandom like 3 years ago...

1. What do you consider to be the essential elements of an UTAUloid/UTAU voicebank?
I'm a very pedantic person, for me a good voicebank is VCV and multipitch having a decent pronunciation + several append voicebanks. First of all I search for a voice with which I will work. I treat UTAU like a serious hobby, so I want to enjoy the whole process of work.

2. What websites do you use? I used to try to promote my voicebanks like 2 years ago on forums, but now... nah. Promoting something in utau doesn't worth it, if a voicebank\ust is good, people will notice it by themselfs in a short time.

3. Is there a hierarchy to the fandom? I think there is... It depends on users' activity and skills.

4.Who are the most "popular" users? I don't actually pay attention to who is popular and stuff, I'm not that active and talkative with ppl in a fandom, so, basicly, I just don't know :'D I follow ppl whos works/covers I like and voicebanks which I admire.

5.What's the biggest issue/problem facing UTAU users/the UTAU fandom? For me, I always wanted UTAU fandom to be just like Japanese vocaloid fandom - all is up to music and creativity. People work together to compose songs or make covers, team with ppl, who can draw and make videos and ect. For me UTAU is first of all a programme, that allows you to synthesize the vocal, just another musical instrument, not an OC maker, like many ppl may think.
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tsunyandere Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
ahh, I would like to add my input actually~ :iconbunnylazeplz: I took a small break for a year and now I'm sort of in-out of the fandom, but I think I do remember quite a lot from my time back then,, and when you were in the fandom with me :iconlazycryplz:  I'm less active now because school is much more demanding of my time orz and other hobbies I took an interest in, but thinking back this hobby has been extremely fun and introduced me to a lot of friends and I would do it all over again if I have to

1. What do you consider to be the essential elements of an UTAUloid/UTAU voicebank? 
I guess an essential element of any voicebank at it's core is it's voice and to make that voice shine it's the oto- for cv it's all up the configurations and smoothness of the notes. Everyone has their own preferences but I'm very specific about what I like. I'd say it's the same elements I look for in a vocaloid. How much I enjoy listening to the voice itself and ease of use/ QoL through how well the otos are configured. For example, definitely hold the standards I use to judge vocaloids to judge utau. 1. the voice type and configurations 2. the design, because one of the reasons I enjoy utau is because it is a very visual based fandom

2. What websites do you use? 

I really enjoy using deviantart for one, and youtube is fine too. YT I just post the utau covers, deviantart, I just post my creative stuff. as for the other websites, I don't use them for utau because I don't want to dedicate too much time in this hobby. Sometimes it's rather frustrating to think and so I'd rather not think about it too hard. >< I haven't used utaforum or any other forums since the first  time I started utau.

3. Is there a hierarchy to the fandom?

hmm, this is a question I think is different for each person, the way I percieve it there is always going to be levels of popularity,, just like how there are different popularity tiers of artists on dA. I personally believe that everyone who gains fans through their own way. people earn their fanbase through their own circumstances, either through their contributions to the community, their raw talent or they had supporters to begin with from another fandom. Basically, the utau fandom is not so different from another in this respect, imo. There are internal factors (for example, you have control over how you behave to others) as well as external factors (for example, pure musical talent and ability to sing etc. etc.) and cliques are not such a good thing because it makes people have a hive-mind mentality and a penchant for excluding outsiders but I think having friends who support each other is a good thing.


4.Who are the most "popular" users? 

I believe that effort and pure dedication to utau will factor into the 'popularity' aspect. Really, I pay a lot of attention to the attitude of the user/ utau voicer, usually people who are nice to others have my respect so as long as they don't come off as having a bad attitude ( I don't believe things like rumors about people's bad attitude tho because a lot of rumors are untrue and I need to experience first hand for myself)

As for a user, definitely kyaami/ cillia because of her well-made covers// example being not only the tuning, PV and mix is brilliant, usually she puts a new spin onto a cover (such as putting the song in a different key that makes it sound better). The single most popular utau is Ritsu Namine Kire to my belief because of general voicebank configurations and vocal quality and vipper. This is purely my opinion, which is really biased lol!

5.What's the biggest issue/problem facing UTAU users/the UTAU fandom?
I would say the biggest issue facing utau is definitely negative drama. The negative drama in the utau fandom that I've witnessed over the years- people accusing eachother of stealing utau designs, and other original ideas etc. etc. Also, the fact that people talk behind eachother's backs without any basis for talking. I remember when a utau confessions blog was created and then used by drama creators to target certain people in the fandom. However, usually these things get dissolved, the blog was discontinued because it generated nothing but negative drama.  I see these things less now than before however, and  I hope that as the fandom continues to grow and improve that this issue will completely go away

really, I think the mean age of overseas is probably younger around 16 , but the Japanese mean age is a much older group of people :D :iconsupertighthugplz: I hope my answer was satisfactory, it's all based off my personal feelings but I hope that it will be useful to you!
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Soffie101 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
So... I'm definitely not a new Utau user; I've been using Utau for seven years.
However, as an experienced user, I thought I’d also answer these questions because I’m also very much included in the fandom(as of now, I have schooling that’s keeping me distant a bit, but I still look around as much as I can).

I saw some posts last night that made me curious about and interested in the current UTAU fandom generation. I'll admit that for all intensive purposes I've been out of the fandom for nearly 2 years. I've come up with a couple questions for those UTAU users who would consider themselves highly active users, especially those who joined the fandom recently (2 years ago, a year ago, etc).

1. What do you consider to be the essential elements of an UTAUloid/UTAU voicebank?
I think that it’s actually very hard to have a ‘complete’ voice bank nowadays. There’s a lot of essentials needed, like all the sounds, and the oto. I find that even with a complete oto, I tend to do a lot of editing to fit the needs I... Well, need.
So I guess the best way I can say an Utau is complete is if they have all the sounds their reclist requires.

2. What websites do you use?
I mainly use Youtube, which of course, I upload videos to.
I also use Soundcloud to have demos, ust releases I don’t have videos for, and for music I did for fun. If I upload something to Soundcloud that is important, then I also upload it to Tumblr, and my Twitter account automatically posts my Soundcloud audio posts.
I also have a Google site that I have all of my information on, as well as ust releases and dates. I guess at least a couple of people check it, because sometimes I have something there that I haven’t put on Soundcloud or anything, and they use the things there!

3. Is there a hierarchy to the fandom?
I would definitely say yes to this, but it’s to be expected as this is normal in the real world.
I think that it’s a bad factor, but even I fall for it, so I can’t judge people for it. I wish one day, this won’t be an issue, however.
This isn’t a good question for newer users, though, because if you are new, you might think you are not getting the right attention that you deserve. However, if you are new, then it’s just that; you are new. You will get connections, and get somewhere.
Before I met Kai and Juliet, I was still off the map. I’m only bordering it right now, but without them, I wouldn’t be where I am now; I got a lot of my ust inspiration from them as well as the people I met through/with them, and both of them help me so much.
So if new people are worried that they will not get noticed because of lack of talent, do not worry! I suck at drawing, and I’m still here. You will get noticed by senpai eventually!

4.Who are the most "popular" users?
I’m going to be a bit biased here and say that KaiSuki and nekodoru are very big Utau users. Kai is very popular, and he and Juliet work together a lot, so...
But I very popular uses are people like Na-Nami, TerrainAKKA, Myst, AkiGlancy, ect(these being English speaking Utau users; there are a ton of very popular ones that don’t speak English, but if I added all of them, I think this post would be way too big). They all offer very good content, and are very nice people, as well~
However, I think asking for the ‘best’ Utau is actually impossible, seeing as every Utau has potential, and of course, the answer will be biased. For instance, I have this big place in my heart for Utaus like Kai Kim, Yuett Egao, Shou Kurone, and Sora Anjou, and I didn’t even include the Japanese ones I love.

5.What's the biggest issue/problem facing UTAU users/the UTAU fandom?Well, I think one of the biggest issues is not crediting a user for usts.
Me personally, I like to credit if I used someone else’s ust(and I credit the song, as well) on every place I post something, even if it’s a demo or not. Most of my friends also think this is a good idea, even the ones that are not in the Utau fandom. A lot of people don’t do this, though;;
I also think a big problem is mixing, as some people can just slap two sound files together and upload it right away; this can make the end product sound lazy, and poorly made. I had these times, so I can’t judge it at all, but it makes me a bit sad, and I wish I could help everyone.
I also have seen a lot of tracing in the fandom. While everyone makes their mistakes, and I have too, it’s best to make up for those mistakes. I’ve seen some people just add to them, and that makes me sad as well...;;

I could go on for hours talking about Utau, haha-
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Cybersenpai Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
1. What do you consider to be the essential elements of an UTAUloid/UTAU voicebank? A completed voice bank able to sing any UST you render it with. If its VCV it is essential to have Hiragana aliases or if its CV to have both Romaji/Hiragana as well. A completed oto.ini is important as well. As well as having standard samples/sounds needed for singing. ( I personally never used samples such as Kwa/Gwa/Rwa so I consider these extra's and are not essential for a Japanese VB however having extra's may help for multilingual support)

2. What websites do you use? Soundcloud. (primarily) I mostly upload WIP of covers/vb's I'm working at the time.

3. Is there a hierarchy to the fandom? There isn't much of a clique but many like to believe so. The majority of the users in the community are pretty friendly and are easy to communicate with; skype/twitter/dA/tumblr/etc. ( most are easy to contact but some due to personal reasons; school/work/etc. may not be as accessible ). Though it is true that people are more likely to 

4.Who are the most "popular" users? Some are popular due to their art, voice banks, videos, ust's, original songs and tuning.This term is subjective however depending on where a user may spend more of their time for example; someone on tumblr may not know about said user since their works are uploaded mostly on a different site which they may not have access to/or an account for.

5.What's the biggest issue/problem facing UTAU users/the UTAU fandom? Forgetting to realize this is a hobby and some are wiling to do more or less with it. Not every has to "tune" their covers while doing so may make them more interesting to listen to and plug and play doesn't always sound bad.
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